This is NOT a Holocaust denial website, it is a FACT that the Holocaust happened.How sincere is this claim? And why is it being made in the first place?
Registrant:On February 1st, Richard posted this [screenshot] at HC:
Richard Lauren
329 Harrow Road
London, London W9 3RB
GB
Domain name: HSRDB.COM
Just wait until this new database that cross-references ALL the witness testimonies about these topics in one report goes online - the gross inconsistencies will be exposed once and for all.Five days later he posted this at CODOH in response to the author of "One Third of the Holocaust" denial videos (debunked by us) [screenshot]:
We will see exactly "who said what" about the means of gas production in one report - all source-referenced to eliminate disputes.
I cant wait...
by JustTheTruth » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:32 amRichard/JTT thus reveals that the real purpose of the site is "exposing the numerous contradictions in testimony".
Hi Carto's Cutlass Supreme,
Interesting suggestion, thanks.
I am presently working on a project that uses a database with a web interface that allows the cross-referencing of historical sources regarding a particular topic of interest. The first is for Treblinka, so for example, shortly it will be able to produce reports that have quotes from every known testimony in relation to the Treblinka gas chambers and their engines etc; available by search menu.
Eventually it will cover every important aspect of the Treblinka camp - exposing the numerous contradictions in testimony. And if successful, databases can be also be created for all the important camps of the Holocaust.
The hope is for it to be a free research tool for historians and revisionists and student, so if it works as expected, I will see if I can make one for the Boder interviews. I'll keep you updated.
If you are interested in playing with the "beta" database, let me know...
Surely it is reasonable to argue that if the Jew's, by their own admission, willingly and deliberately engage in a course of conduct that they are acutely aware has resulted in repeated persecutions to those engaging in said conduct; they are, by doing so, instigating and provoking a an anticipated result and as such are directly responsible for any consequences thereof.And:
No people ever DESERVE to be treated as the Jews were by the Nazis; however is it wrong to suggest that they CONTRIBUTED?
In legal terms this is called PROVOCATION which, in many jurisdictions, forms the basis for a lawful defenses to criminal charges such as assault.
Therefore in many legal jurisdictions, knowingly and deliberately engaging in such a course of conduct that provokes another party, implies consent regarding the actions of that party resulting from said conduct.
[...]
Without some sort of prior obligation or responsibility of host nations for the well-being of their Jewish guests, the Jewish peoples have no right to conduct themselves in a manner that is antagonistic toward their hosts. Am I wrong here?
One must ask why the Jewish people continue to blatantly conduct themselves in such a way that has seen their repeated persecuted throughout history?
How does the often warped logic of the holocaust manage to turn this fundamental principle of cause-and-effect on it's head so that people like you are prepared to debate it?
Stop for one second and ask yourself if you would tolerate a houseguest conducting themselves in a manner that showed that they had no respect for you, your family, your property, your traditions or your implied house rules?
You would kick them out, plain and simple. No need for "hate" or anti-anything for this simple trait of human nature to be evoked as the resident RODOH psychotherapist should well know. Am I wrong here?
(anyone who is silly enough to answer yes, please find the nearest homeless person and open up your home to them - no rule, no restrictions and then bask in the glory of knowing your are not an "anti-vagrant" like all the rest of us)
Sorry if I am losing you with my explanation that I am just a normal guy, not a NAZI. I am sure you would just love me to be one of these nuts, just to suit you own idiotic rational that anyone who challenges that Holocuast is one.(He admits he "challenges" the Holocaust.)
No I was referring to Sergys use of it to somehow describe anti-semitism which could never be honestly achieved by a Jewish writer.Etc., etc.
"I am afraid if something is not done to keep the Revisionist forum up to the standards of "open" debate, many more posters will also pack their bags and take their game elsewhere. At such a dismal time in the revisionism movement, where leaders such as Rudolf, Zundel, and Toben are in European jails, one must keep the community as active and as large as possible. Shunting different revisionist ideas, and limiting the "open" nature of debate is detrimental to our movement, and threatens the very lifeblood in times such as these."Since November 2008, the situation at the CODOH forum has only continued to deteriorate. Despite the forum's eight year lifespan, it still has not reached 500 total posters; the 470+ that it currently has overwhelmingly arrived some years ago, with only a trickle of new posters coming in now; indeed, only a small fraction of the total posters still appear on a regular basis. Numerous posters (mostly revisionists) have left the forum because of the heavy-handed moderating practices. No other forum involved with Holocaust discussions (including revisionist arguments) has such a tendency to delete unwanted posts.
"CODOH is not dogmatic in its views and I think would provide you the latitude you are seeking.Bradley Smith emailed a similar comment (dated November 11, 2008):
The CODOH Forum is not CODOH. It is largely the work and effort of the moderator there whom I assume you know. He has tremendous freedom to do what he wants-and what he does is certainly different than what I would do. The key is however that he does it. It is not something I have the time nor the stomach for.
(...)
I am interested to know why you might think us "Close-minded" or dogmatic in this area. I know of no one less so in the entire debate on either side.
SO in short-yes you could do your own thing. The only intervening I recall through the years with regard to the Forum has been requesting to allow more posts to be posted and to stop a campaign which called for the banning of the work of David Irving."
"Widman speaks for me here on all points.That the two see the CODOH forum as distinctly different from CODOH itself (and thus, not held responsible) is a very misguided view to take, and one that I am at a loss to explain.
I have always been especially interested in the revisionist criticism of published H. revisionism. have always thought it a weakness of CODOH in not having it.
To date we have not had a way of doing this with anything resembling graciousness or generoisity, and without those qualities it is destructive. The Forum is run on a very tight leash, but as Widmann notes, it is run, and has been run for years at considerable risk and personal cost for the primary moderator, and has built up a very large repository of information."
This is exactly what the National Socialists wanted for Germany, to have a Germany for Germans and to preserve that Aryan bloodline. Here is part of the Nürnberg law:First there was neo-Nazi Carolyn Yeager [1, 2, 3], now this.
5. Nur der Deutsche, der sich zur deutschen Kultur – und Schicksalsgemeinschaft bekennt, kann staatsbürgerliche Rechte ausüben
(only those Germans who acknowledges to be part of German culture and destiny can carry out civic duties)
Hitler had the right to decide who lives in Germany and who did not. Jews are never part of the Schicksalsgemeinschaft they live in, regardless of what country it is. Therefore, they are strangers and subject to removal. This is what the National Socialists wanted, the Jews out of Germany. And that is all the Mohawk’s want, I doubt however that they will be allowed to succeed. And we have to remember that the Indians, in spite of all the make believe, are not sovereign nations.
Israel practices this and would get rid of the remaining Palestinians in an instance, but this can not be compared to the situation in Germany, and indeed to that in Quebec. The Jews claiming to be original Hebrews from Judea, or wherever, are not, and have therefore no right to push the aboriginals out. Germany on the other hand has been populated by Germanic tribes for centuries, ditto for the Indians. And yes, if it can be proven that the land I purchased and live on is still land owned by the Indians, I would have to move, but that is another issue altogether.
Hi Carmelo,And poor Cesspit Clown Carto's Cutlass Supreme is aloof and out of touch, as usual:
I'm surprised you are still crusading about something that happened in 2006, and on a revisionist site to boot, or did you switch sides? You used to put up fake blogs claiming that Sergey Romanov was a Holocaust denier, yet here you are on CODOH talking about 'hoaxers' running the ARC site.
Incidentally, I was merely a collateral casualty of a feud between other people. I belonged to the ARC group for a few months, contributed nothing, and lost nothing much when I was histrionically booted out for having done absolutely nothing. Can't say I particularly care, but evidently the internet is such a serious business for you that you do.
I have to say that someone starting death-camps.org to imitate and confuse with deathcamps.org seems dishonest to me.That would be dishonest indeed, if not for the fact that death-camps.org was set up by ARC members who disagreed with Chris Webb's and Carmelo Lisciotto's policy of promoting fake documents on deathcamps.org (as described here). The intent was to preserve the authentic information, cleared from "Andy Schmidt's" forgeries.
I can't think of any regular at this forum that hasn't had a post deleted for one reason or an other. You have to understand that the emphasis here is on debate that is free of subject changing, distortion, namecalling, and dodging, etc. Without our very basic guidelines (which are not unusual, they are generally found in moderated debates), we would end up with very confusing threads ... unfortunately that is exactly what some desire.The Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust is therefore promoting closed debate.
Blatt is claiming a diesel engine was used for murder. That's funny. I thought Roberto and Sergy already declared the diesel engine moot and were instead trying to focus on petrol engines as the real culprit instead.
Ah, no, he heard no such thing. I don't know whether Blatt said "submarine" or whether it was the journalist's distortion, but Blatt wouldn't know it's submarine in any case - he never was in the extermination zone and the Nazis clearly testified about the gasoline engine. So you miss again. (There was a diesel engine for generating electricity nearby the gassing engine according to Hoedl, but that's that.)
Final conclusion
My research clearly shows that Irene Weisberg Zisblatt is not only a survivor of Auschwitz and the Holocaust, but that she, indeed, has an interesting and instructive story to tell. A story of endless humiliations and extreme suffering, but also of survival against all odds. It would be similar to those that hundreds of survivors can tell or have already told. It certainly would be less adventurous than that which she tells. But it would be in accordance with the historically established facts. Irene Weisberg Zisblatt should tell her story about survival at Auschwitz without exaggerations and implausibilities. It then would be a really true story, worth to be told and retold and to be listened to.
Keep your posts limited to one point.So how are posters supposed to debate if they are not allowed to cite relationships and convergences between pieces of evidence? Clearly no such meaningful debate is possible, and that is the intention behind the rule: to shield CODOH from true debate.
Voluminous, lengthy, and redundant posts are not welcomed.
Yankel Wiernik's book published in The Forward buildingIt seems that even the simplest googling no longer works for these chimps. They don't even try anymore - they just go with what seems plausible or implausible to them, facts be damned. Except given their paranoid mindset and utter ignorance nothing good ever comes out of it.
by Carto's Cutlass Supreme » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:07 am
The cover of A Year In Treblinka by Yankel Wiernik states:Published by AMERICAN REPRESENTATION of the GENERAL JEWISH WORKERS" UNION of POLANDCompare addresses:
175 East Broadway
New York, 2, N. Y.
See the Wikipedia entry for Forward Magazine. Same address:At the peak of its popularity, the Forward erected a ten-story office building at 175 East Broadway on the Lower East Side, designed by architect George Boehm and completed in 1912.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forward
The mouthful of "AMERICAN REPRESENTATION of the GENERAL JEWISH WORKERS" UNION of POLAND" doesn't seem that plausible as a real group. I think this points to the people behind The Forward being the publishers of A Year in Treblinka. And it wouldn't have looked so good had the inside cover said "Published by Forward Magazine."
Then again, had there been such a "American Representation" group, it wouldn't be surprising that they would rent space in the 10 story Forward building.
Wow...a Christ-like sacrifice for the greater good. These people never stop impressing."My father blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee,"
BS. Why wouldn't he just close the door. And the son knows this from 'Israel', right. No doubt the father sent this info. to his son from the great beyond. Pathetic."My father blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee," Librescu's son, Joe Librescu, said Tuesday in a telephone interview from his home outside Tel Aviv. "Students started opening windows and jumping out."
But according to the standard storyline, all those unable to work, children, elderly, and sick, were supposedly murdered.Listed as 76 years old, this makes the person 8 years old when the war began, and 14 when it ended.
Oh, but they were needed to clean the insides of small metal shell casings...(!)Hannover wrote:But according to the standard storyline, all those unable to work, children, elderly, and sick, were supposedly murdered.
Why would there be?There are no articles on the net that I found which talk about this person as a holocaust survivor.
Because so called 'holocaust' survivors crave the limelight and cash they gain from what is truly a scam, and they have a judeo-supremacist media and organizations (like the ADL) to trumpet their unsupportable assertions, that's why.stuker wrote:Why would there be?There are no articles on the net that I found which talk about this person as a holocaust survivor.
"Theresa Walsh was one of the last people to see Liviu Librescu alive.nashchad wrote:Huh? I'm not trying to be a hard ass but wouldn't it be more reliable to get an actual eye-witness to this story instead of the deceased man's son who lives in Israel? How could he possibly know anything?
Walsh does not say that Librescu saved them, the author of the story and this 'Puri' man does.Real wrote:"Theresa Walsh was one of the last people to see Liviu Librescu alive.nashchad wrote:Huh? I'm not trying to be a hard ass but wouldn't it be more reliable to get an actual eye-witness to this story instead of the deceased man's son who lives in Israel? How could he possibly know anything?
"He looked horrified, almost as if he knew what was going to happen. But he kept all the students behind him so they could get out. "
Walsh said she saw that a lone gunman, ......She said Librescu was peering into the hallway at that moment, keeping his body between the gunman and his students.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld ... news-print
Witness tells a hero’s story
BY MARTIN C. EVANS
martin.evans@newsday.com
; Staff writer Luis Perez contributed to this
April 19, 2007
Theresa Walsh was one of the last people to see Liviu Librescu alive.
"He looked horrified, almost as if he knew what was going to happen," said the Virginia Tech senior math major, who had stepped into the hallway from a second-floor classroom across from his at Virginia Tech's Norris Hall when she heard what turned out to be gunshots. "But he kept all the students behind him so they could get out. "
Librescu, a slightly built Israeli immigrant who survived the Nazi occupation of Romania and perished barring a classroom doorway so that his students could flee to safety out windows, was at the epicenter of the shooting rampage that claimed the lives of 33 students and faculty at the university, Virginia Tech officials confirmed yesterday.
"He's a frail man, 75 or 76 years old, who barricaded the door so his students could escape," said Ishwar Puri, chairman of the Engineering Science and Mechanics department, where Librescu was a professor.
Walsh said she saw that a lone gunman, later identified as Seung-Hui Cho, had emerged from a classroom next to the one in which Librescu taught and was moving toward him. She said Librescu was peering into the hallway at that moment, keeping his body between the gunman and his students.
Walsh said her sudden appearance in the hallway seemed to distract the gunman, who turned toward her, raised a handgun and began firing.
She said she dove back into her classroom, just as a bullet slammed into the wall next to the door. She was uninjured.
She and her classmates then barricaded themselves in, pinning a table against the door and holding onto its legs while lying on their bellies.
"After he missed, he shot through the door twice, but missed because everyone was on their stomach," said Walsh of Binghamton, N.Y. "Then he went on to the next room. You could hear shot after shot - bang, bang, bang, bang. You could hear people screaming. "
Librescu was hit at least five times and died on the classroom floor, according to Edgar Gluck, a Brooklyn rabbi who flew to Virginia to help with the ritual preparation of Librescu's body for burial.
Puri, who described Librescu as a decorous man who greeted friends with a wave and a "hallo, hallo," said Librescu's bravery helped slow the shooter, allowing other people in the department to realize that a killer was in the building, and to make their way to safety.
Puri said one other professor in the department, Kevin P. Granata, was shot dead when he came down from an office on the third floor to investigate the source of the noise, and came across the killer.
"A lot of us would not be around today were it not for our colleagues warning us and giving us more time," said Puri, who said students in Librescu's second-floor classroom jumped from windows as Librescu barred the door.
Librescu was born to a Jewish family in August 1930, in Romania. According to a cousin, Emil Simiu, of Maryland, Librescu had been a stocky, vigorous youth who took miles-long swims in the Black Sea.
The family endured Nazi persecution during the early years of World War II. His father, Isidore, a lawyer, was expelled from the bar and in 1941 was sent to a concentration camp, which he survived. Librescu and his mother went to live with his mother's family in Focsani, Simiu said.
But he was able to resume his studies after the war, and by the 1950s was considered a brilliant engineering researcher. He was encouraged when an influential Soviet mathematician wrote him for advice on solving a problem.
In 1976, a smuggled research manuscript that he had published in the Netherlands drew him international attention in the growing field of material dynamics. In the mid-1970s, he immigrated to Israel, where he became a professor at the University of Tel Aviv. He came to Virginia Tech in 1985 and lived in Blacksburg with his wife, Marlena. Puri said they had two grown children.
"He was always helping who he could," Marlena Librescu said from Brooklyn. "But he wasn't able to help himself. "
His research is said to have been critical to advances in the field of composite materials used to make strong lightweight components for modern aircraft.
"He was an absolute giant," Puri said. "I want him to be remembered that way."
Staff writer Luis Perez contributed to this story.
1. Yes she does. Her description of what she witnessed was this:Hannover wrote:1. Walsh does not say that Librescu saved them, the author of the story does.
2. I see this a more judeo-supremacist self worship, where anything is deemed special when it comes to judeo-supremacists.
How does that happen since Walsh was outside, in front of him?Real wrote:1. Yes she does. Her description of what she witnessed was this:Hannover wrote:1. Walsh does not say that Librescu saved them, the author of the story does.
2. I see this a more judeo-supremacist self worship, where anything is deemed special when it comes to judeo-supremacists.
"But he kept all the students behind him so they could get out. "
Had she said "and" instead of "so" there might be some doubt about what she meant.
2. Walsh? Judeo self-worship?
1. Where does it say he was lying on the floor?Hannover wrote:1. How does his lying on the floor 'save students'?
2. Yes, judeo-supremacism. Read the false glorification, by 'Walsh, Puri, Perez. - Hannover
on the floor:Real wrote:1. Where does it say he was lying on the floor?Hannover wrote:1. How does his lying on the floor 'save students'?
2. Yes, judeo-supremacism. Read the false glorification, by 'Walsh, Puri, Perez. - Hannover
He died on the floor.
If he was hit five times and students lying on the floor weren't hit, and the witness across the hall saw the look on his face, it pretty clear he was standing.
2. Why do you assume it's false glorification?
Ms. Walsh (not capable of "judeo-supremacist self worship") was across the hall (close enough to see his face). Her conclusions are probably more valid than yours or mine.
So, the door was barricaded by the students, and everyone got on the floor, Walsh got up and was shot. There is nothing to indicate he saved anyone."After he missed, he shot through the door twice, but missed because everyone was on their stomach," said Walsh of Binghamton, N.Y. "Then he went on to the next room. You could hear shot after shot - bang, bang, bang, bang. You could hear people screaming. "
1. You're a tad off on your comprehension of the articleHannover wrote:1. So, the door was barricaded by the students, and everyone got on the floor, Walsh got up and was shot. There is nothing to indicate he saved anyone.
2. It's false glorification because his 'Jewishness' is emphasized rather just being a person, along with the false claims of the 'holocaust', and the false claim that he 'saved' students. Wanna debate the 'holocaust'?
1. I think you're off just a tad on your comprehension of the article:Hannover wrote:1. So, the door was barricaded by the students, and everyone got on the floor, Walsh got up and was shot. There is nothing to indicate he saved anyone.
2. It's false glorification because his 'Jewishness' is emphasized rather just being a person, along with the false claims of the 'holocaust', and the false claim that he 'saved' students.
Combine those with over-the-top superlatives and we have judeo-supremacism sticking out like a sore tumb.- Librescu, a slightly built Israeli immigrant who survived the Nazi occupation of Romania .....
- Librescu was born to a Jewish family in August 1930, in Romania ...
- The family endured Nazi persecution during the early years of World War II. His father, Isidore, a lawyer, was expelled from the bar and in 1941 was sent to a concentration camp, which he survived. [yet another survivor in spite of claims of planned 'extermination']
- In the mid-1970s, he immigrated to Israel, where he became a professor at the University of Tel Aviv.
1. This reminds me of the ACLU second guessing a cop after a shooting.Hannover wrote:1. Librescu curiously gets credit for being a hero, while he really behaved rather stupidly in not just closing and barricading the door a la Walsh's class.
2. You have no evidence this man 'survived a horror' and have apparently chosen not to debate regarding it.
3. points from the article which promote the guy's 'jewishness':
4. Combine those with over-the-top superlatives and we have judeo-supremacism sticking out like a sore tumb.
If this man was Mexican or anything else, I doubt if we'd get all the laughable personal information and absurd praise. Self promotion is part & parcel to the 'holocaust' Industry.I still don't get this Judeo-Supremacism thing as it relates to this story and Ms. Walsh. Do you feel that Ms. Walsh would have told her story differently if the professor were Mexican?
True. The problem with this story is that it probably isn´t possible to save anybody in this way. Maybe you can win a couple of seconds for those you want to save (which is the time it takes to be shot and fall to the ground), but then that doesn´t matter anyway. There are better ways of barricading a door.Hannover wrote:. Librescu curiously gets credit for being a hero, while he really behaved rather stupidly in not just closing and barricading the door a la Walsh's class.
- Hannover
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Going off of Bradley Smith's popular challenge, I was wondering if any revisionist here is able to provide, with proof, the name of a single person who was deloused and shipped off the the occupied Soviet territories (or some other resettlement area) from 'transit camp' Treblinka?
This is a very crucial question for revisionists to answer. As leading researcher Carlo Mattogno maintains:
Since Treblinka was much too small to be able to accommodate the large number of Jews deported there at the same time, the transit camp thesis is, in fact, the single plausible alternative to the conventional picture of the extermination camp. Tertium non datur - no third possibility is given.
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/t/2.html
Unfortunately, Mattogno is not able to meet this challenge.
Greg Gerdes similarly maintains from his NAFCASH website:
THE TRUTH – Treblinka was a transit camp and the so called gas chambers were, in reality, DELOUSING FACILITIES designed to protect the health and prolong the lives of the shameless liars who fraudulently claimed to be the victims of a genocidal extermination program. Remember, there are only two options: extermination center (for those who believe in magic) or transit camp (for those who believe in the scientific method). There is no third option and only one truth.
http://nafcash.com/
Yet no names are given.
I'd even be willing to accept evidence of transports travelling from Treblinka to a specified resettlement area (no need for specific names). Surely this challenge is much easier than the similar one that Bradley Smith poses to Holocaust traditionalists, as the people in question would be alive (somewhere), and leave a much larger trace than any silent and cremated corpse.
Perhaps some witness testimony of the resettlement? Post-war memoirs of life in the newly established lands?
I'd be interested to see what everyone has to offer.
by Gébé Tremblay » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:04 am
Lamprecht wrote:On the contrary, Greg Gerdes, who posted in this thread, said:
"Treblinka was a transit camp"
See the full quote in the OP.
He is making the claim that it is a transit camp.
Greg Gerdes dont represent all revisionists.
Some of you guys seem to want to label such things as white pride 'racist' while ignoring the fact that the 'holocaust' lie is a racist lie against those of European lineage, aka 'whites'. The promoters of the absurd 'holocaust' are racist. I see very few here who seem to realize that.
[...]
I do understand your point and we try to avoid that at this forum. But also, I think it's fair and reasonable to expect those with a European background to react to what is clearly a racist attack upon them. For every other group, racial consciousness is not only accepted, but encouraged; there should be no double standard.
The expression goes:'Those that fail to protect and nurture their own are destined to be ruled by those that do'.
...the identity of 6,186 persons missing from the July 1995 fall of Srebrenica, by analyzing DNA profiles extracted from bone samples of exhumed mortal remains and matching them to the DNA profiles obtained from blood samples donated by relatives of the missing.Surely this is enough for deniers to drop their evasion of the obvious truth? Unfortunately, no.
Your links don't help, in fact they hurt your position, they merely show a few bones and not enormous mass graves of thousands upon thousands as alleged. Also, the text which makes claims means nothing when searching for physical evidence.Hargis thus insisted by implication that even DNA evidence is inadmissible unless the investigators have placed photographs of each grave and each exhumed body on the Internet with proof that they were murdered.
I believe it was a Finnish forensics team that surmised that what dead they did find were a result of military action. The bodies contained gun powder traces indicative of weapons firing.What Finnish team was this and how does the presence of gunpowder prove that the dead were simply victims of battle? It turns out that Hargis was conflating Srebrenica with the investigation of the massacre in Racak, Kosovo, and was misrepresenting the results, which are discussed here.
Interestingly, although the Serbs were regularly accused of trying to hide bodies, there has never been any suggestion that the Bosnian Muslims, long in charge of the body search, might shift bodies around and otherwise manipulate evidence, despite their substantial record of dissembling. A systematic attempt to use DNA to trace connections to Srebrenica is underway, but entails many problems, apart from that of the integrity of the material studied and process of investigation, and will not resolve the question of differentiating executions from deaths in combat. There are also lists of missing, but these lists are badly flawed, with duplications, individuals listed who had died before July 1995, who fled to avoid BSA service, or who registered to vote in 1997, and they include individuals who died in battle or reached safety or were captured and assumed a new existence elsewhere.This crankery proves that the demands made by deniers for forensic evidence of Holocaust mass grave sites are bogus. If DNA evidence is inadmissible, there is simply no point in trying to placate such demands by disturbing the sites.
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